Leadership In Law Podcast
Are you a Law Firm Owner who wants to grow, scale, and find the success you know is possible?
Welcome to the Leadership In Law Podcast with host, Marilyn Jenkins! Cut through the noise. Get actionable insights and inspiring stories delivered straight to your ears - your ultimate podcast for navigating the ever-changing world of law firm ownership.
In each episode, we dive deep into the critical topics that matter most to you, from unlocking explosive growth to building a thriving team. We connect you with successful law firm leaders and industry experts who share their proven strategies and hard-won wisdom.
So, whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting your journey as a law firm owner, the Leadership in Law Podcast is here to equip you with the knowledge and tools you need to build a successful and fulfilling legal practice.
Your host, Marilyn Jenkins, is a Digital Marketing Strategist who helps Law Firms Grow and Scale using personalized digital marketing programs. She has helped law firms grow to multiple 7 figures in revenue using Law Marketing Zone® programs.
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Episodes
114 episodes
S03E109 The AND Concept For a Fuller Life with Gary Mitchell
What if the choice between a thriving law firm and a fulfilling life is a false one? We sit down with Gary Mitchell, a veteran coach to law firm owners, to unpack a practical path to growth without burnout, what he calls the and mindset. Instea...
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S03E108 The Importance of Asset Protection with Garrett & Ted Sutton
We sit down with Garrett and Ted Sutton, the father–son legal team behind Corporate Direct, to unpack the real-world playbook for asset protection, what actually works, what gets people into trouble, and how to build a structure that holds up u...
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Episode 108
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S03E107 HR is More Than Hiring & Firing with Kelly Murphy
What if the biggest profit leaks in your firm aren’t in pricing or pipeline, but in people? We sit down with HR consultant Kelly Murphy, who brings 18+ years of experience, including at a multi-state law firm, to unpack how systems, connection,...
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Episode 107
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S03E106 Human-First AI Marketing with Mike Montague
Most AI marketing falls flat because it forgets the human on the other side. We sit down with Mike Montague, agency leader, author, and voice for human-first AI, to unpack a practical playbook that helps law firms reach the right clients at the...
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Episode 106
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36:46
S03E105 How Credit Card Lawsuits Really Work with Efstathios Georgiou
A knock at the door, a stack of papers, and suddenly your heart is racing. Getting sued over credit card debt feels terrifying, and for many people it triggers panic rather than a plan. We sat down with attorney Efstathios Georgiou, who spent y...
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Episode 105
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S03E104 Using AI Voice for Better Customer Service & Profits with Adam Rossen
Missed calls cost more than ad spend ever will. That’s the hard truth we unpack with criminal defense leader Adam Rossen, who rebuilt his intake around voice AI to capture late-night inquiries, route clients instantly, and deliver a consistent,...
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Episode 104
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S03E103 Succeed Without Selling with Diane Helbig
What if selling less could help your firm grow more? We sit down with business advisor and author Diane Helbig to rethink how lawyers win clients without scripts, pressure, or jargon. Instead of forcing a pitch, we break down a discovery-first ...
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Episode 103
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31:45
S03E102 How Human Chat Service Can Increase Lead Flow by 50% with Ted DeBettencourt
We sat down with Ted DeBettencourt, a JD-MBA turned legal marketing operator, to unpack how human-led chat, built on empathy and speed, can lift qualified leads by 50 percent or more. Ted shares the origin story of firing generic chat vendors, ...
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Episode 102
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28:20
S03E101 Fish Where the Fish Are with Attorney Brandon Woodward
Handshakes feel friendly until someone stops paying. We sit down with corporate and M&A attorney Brandon Woodward to map a smarter way to build, protect, and sell a business, without losing sleep or leaving money on the table. From prosecut...
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Episode 101
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39:29
S02E100 How a Subscription-Based Law Firm Works with Andrew Legrand
The billable hour has dominated legal practice for decades, but Andrew Legrand is pioneering a different approach that's transforming how entrepreneurs interact with their attorneys. As founder of Spera Law Group, Andrew has built one of the co...
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Episode 100
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S02E99 Practical Steps to Burnout Recovery with Charlène Gisele
Charlène Gisele takes us on a profound journey from high-powered litigation at Jones Day to becoming a pioneering burnout prevention specialist after witnessing her father suffer a heart attack driven by work stress. This transformative experie...
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Episode 99
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38:06
S02E98 Rewire Your Brain to Move Beyond Limitations with Jenna Harrison
Meet Jenna Harrison, a reformed overworker turned business coach who helps ambitious professionals build more freedom, impact, and wealth in just three days a week. In this mind-expanding conversation, Jenna reveals how the military's approach ...
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Episode 98
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S02E97 Elder Care & Veteran's Benefits with Dementia Diagnosis with Robert Mannor
The path through elder care and dementia planning can feel like navigating a labyrinth without a map. Nationally board-certified elder law attorney Robert Mannor joins us to reveal how a leadership approach creates better outcomes for families ...
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Episode 97
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S02E96 Giving Back to Grow and Thrive with Stacy D. Phillips
Family law powerhouse Stacy Phillips joins host Marilyn Jenkins to share the unfiltered truth about her remarkable four-decade journey from young attorney to nationally recognized legal leader. Unlike today's carefully mapped career trajectorie...
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Episode 96
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S02E95 Growing an Immigration Firm in 2025 with Adrian Griggs & Abby Hernandez
At the heart of their approach lies an unwavering commitment to ethics and transparency. Adrian, who transitioned from personal injury paralegal to immigration attorney, explains why honesty with clients, even when it means turning away cases, ...
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Episode 95
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S02E94 The Importance of Data and PPC Marketing with Bo Royal
"Your data isn't just numbers, it's the blueprint for your firm's growth," explains Bo Royal, sharing hard-won wisdom from his journey from Fortune 500 advertising executive to specialized legal marketing expert. This conversation peels back th...
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Episode 94
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S02E93 Border Searches & AI Identification with Saul Bienenfeld
What happens to your digital privacy when you cross international borders? The answer might shock you.Veteran NYC criminal defense attorney Saul Bienenfeld pulls back the curtain on the murky legal landscape of border searches in this r...
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Episode 93
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28:05
S02E92 Fractional Legal Teams to Build Your Firm with Jeff Holman
Jeff Holman is revolutionizing legal support for growing businesses with a model that makes perfect sense once you hear it yet somehow hasn't existed until now. As founder of Intellectual Strategies and creator of the first fractional legal tea...
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Episode 92
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37:43
S02E91 Redefining Success for Lawyers & Other High-Achieving Women with Wendy Meadows
Ever feel like you're trapped in a legal Groundhog Day? Your practice looks successful on paper, but something's missing, and the wine and Trader Joe's cookies aren't filling the void?Wendy Meadows, family law attorney turned certified ...
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Episode 91
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S02E90 Building a Lean, Agile Law Firm with Christopher Anderson
Christopher Anderson believes great leadership starts with communication. It's this core principle that guides his revolutionary approach to law firm management through Lean Agile methodology - a system that transforms traditional hierarchical ...
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Episode 90
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S02E89 Discovering Your Dream Job in Franchise Law with Stuti Murarka
Discover how a skilled franchise attorney transforms from legal advisor to strategic growth partner in this illuminating conversation with Stuti Murarka of Cheng Cohen. Having practiced law on two continents and passed the bar exam twice, Stuti...
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Episode 89
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S02E88 Social Media Marketing for Law Firms with Ian A. Harrington
Social media expert Ian A. Harrington pulls back the curtain on what works for law firms in the digital space during this eye-opening conversation. Having helped generate hundreds of millions in case value for personal injury and workers' compe...
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Episode 88
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BONUS How AEO Is Replacing SEO—And What Your Law Firm Needs to Do About It
Search is changing—and fast. If your law firm is still relying on old-school SEO tactics alone, you’re already behind. In this 30-minute workshop, Marilyn Jenkins breaks down the rise of Answer Engine Optimization (AEO)—what it is, why it matte...
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S02E87 Bootstrapping & Referral Networks for Growth with Chuck Panzarella
Ever wondered what happens when legal expertise meets entrepreneurial spirit? Chuck Panzarella embodies this powerful combination, forging a unique career path that spans courtroom advocacy and business development. In this enlightening convers...
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Episode 87
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S02E86 Leadership, Hospitality, & Culture for Success with Elise Buie
What if the secret to building a thriving law practice isn't found in marketing tactics or billable hour targets, but in the mirror? That's exactly what Seattle family law attorney Elise Buie discovered on her journey from solo practitioner to ...
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Episode 86
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